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In this episode I continue our series on what the church needs to do in order to be able to speak meaningfully into the lives of people in a post-Christian culture. I address the problem of evil and the oft-cavalier Christian response to it. I chat with fellow ex-pastor Jonathan Hays about his experience navigating this issue, and then answer a caller’s question about why Jesus’ death was considered a sacrifice. The episode ends with the admission that Intelligent Design might be BS after all.